The 2016 plan – Private Labeling

Introduction

I briefly mentioned this in my 2015 miles and points recap.  I realize now that 2015 was like a pendulum  for me going back and forth between MS and reselling.  I started the year doing heavy MS on my 5% card.  Then I got banned by eBay and continued doing MS.  Then when the Discover AP deal hit in Q4 and Redbird died, I put all of my efforts into reselling.  Now in Q1, I’ve slowed my reselling and gone back to MS.  I realize I just don’t have the capacity to do both at a high level -> I can’t drive around AND pack up boxes at the same exact time.

 

MS and Reselling isn’t scalable

Here’s the truth – MS and reselling isn’t scalable.  Not to the degree that I want.  It’s clear MS avenues have dried up over the past year.  No one can argue that.  And once you start ramping up your reselling, you’ll be banned from Kohl’s, Bloomingdale’s, Best Buy, Sears, and so on.  I think you can resell about 100K to 200K of gross sales per year (profit margin of X depending how good you are.)  You can’t scale past that with one address.  You’ll have to involve other addresses.  Even so, it’s time consuming to box up your items and ship them out.  It’s good side money, but not a career replacement.  Sure, you can find services to box your stuff to FBA, but that’ll cut into your margins.  The highest amount I’ve personally heard someone do was 600K a year gross, purely online arbitrage too.  But he has multiple addresses and he pays people to box and ship.  If you say, “Hey look, that IS scaling.”  Yea, sure, but what happens when he starts getting banned?  It’s inevitable.

 

Reselling is a $10 gig

Like I said, I’ve slowed my reselling lately.  I’m just trying to use up all my merchant gift cards now.  I come back to Matt’s post about turning a $10 gig to a $1000 gig.  I see reselling as a $10 gig.  I never did before, but I do now.  Some of you will agree with me.  Some won’t.  But let me explain.  You see, I have to put in time and effort into reselling, whether it’s researching what items to buys, boxing them up, shipping them out, worrying about reconciling returns and my COGS for each item.  That’s a large part of my time.  All for what?  Roughly 20% margin on goods that I can’t scale?  It’s not like I can buy a million iPads from Best Buy for $300 and flip on FBA for $400.  There is a limit to how many I can buy.  Then when that sale ends, I move on to the next product and start the cycle over again, eventually hitting the same limit again.  Due to these reselling “limits,” that’s why I classify reselling as a $10 gig and not a scalable $1,000 gig.

 

Financial Independence

I’ve often been asked what I would like to be doing in life.  The last answer I gave my buddy was – “I want to work the least amount of time for the most amount of money.”  I was expecting a Rock eyebrow or a laugh, but he shook his head approvingly.   This is the same buddy who wants to retire at 40 and manage investment money all day, so we both have the same end goal, just a different means to that end.

Here’s what I want my day to be like – wake up at 8am or so, eat breakfast, walk my dog, then “work” for 4 hours or so, then go garden or get my hair did and nails done, like a “Real Husbands of Hollywood.”  I want to be my own boss.  I don’t want to answer to anyone.  I want to hire employees to do the menial work.  And I want to make at least a sustained $150,000 a year (adjusted for Seattle cost of living) in doing so.  As you can see, I’m not asking for too much.  I didn’t write a million dollars.  The problem is that reselling and MS alone isn’t going to get me to that $150K goal.  I can probably do it for a year or two, but I don’t think it’s sustainable.  And sustainability is key.

 

selfie stick

Private Labeling

Now I thought about house flipping, but I’ve come to realize that those deals come and go.  Meaning, you might find a house every quarter and you could easily make $50K per house, but I think the stress of finding or not finding a house would get to me.  Plus, currently, I know nothing about fixing up a house.  I COULD learn, but it seems that market is very competitive, and the learning ramp is too high for me.  I wouldn’t rule it out down the road, but right now, I’m not there.

I thought about being a realtor, but then I’d have to work on weekends.  That’s no bueno.

And that’s where private labeling comes in.  What is private labeling you ask?  Essentially it’s importing a product from China and reselling the product on FBA/eBay/your own site.  It’s kind of like a mini “Shark Tank.”  People who invent stuff from scratch like the ridiculous Squatty Potty have made millions.  For me, my goal isn’t to make millions…right now.  I just need to find a product that’ll generate me hundreds of thousands of sales.  You guys have seen all those selfie sticks on Amazon…yeah, those are all private label products, and I can assure you those people made $$$$$.  Speed to market is the name of the game in private labeling.

I KNOW how to resell.  I’ve done it for over 20 years now.  Private labeling is just reselling an item you sourced from China.  Sure there are differences like no brand recognition and traffic ranking issues, but let’s just say I know more about private labeling than fixing a room, alright?  Plus, with all you MS’ers trying to move into reselling now, I need to get out of the peloton and move on to the next thing.

 

Where to start

The same reader who did $600K a year in reselling last year, who ironically also wanted to move into private labeling, pointed me to this website – Passion into Paychecks where he details all the steps he went through to private label his first product.  When I went onto his home page, it seems he sold the site for $35,000.  He’s like a mini-TPG but with private labeling instead of credit card affiliates.  Anyway, I’ve read through half of his 17 step process already.  The biggest hurdle with private labeling is finding the right product.  I keep thinking back on the amount of time I’ve wasted browsing Kohl’s, Sears, and Best Buy where I could have been browsing Amazon and Alibaba.  Whether you want to move into PL one day or not, you should give it a read this weekend.

 

Current status

So the 600K reseller and I have pushed each other to find a product to PL.  We both independently have thought about this for years, but I’d like to think our back-and-forth chats have pushed us to finally take the plunge.  The way I see it is – and the way my buddy who pushed me to flip my first house – “JUST DO IT!”  Even if I lose money on my first product, the lessons I learned will be invaluable and my next product may be more successful.  It’s one thing to WANT to do something, but it’s another thing to go out there and fail at it.  Who do you think wins in the long run?

Anyway, let me wrap up this introductory post.  I’ll chronicle my adventures for you guys going forward.  And by the way, as we speak, my 600K reseller is having his product manufactured and I’m waiting for a sample of my product.  Fun and exciting times indeed.

18 comments on “The 2016 plan – Private Labeling

  1. PS For House Flipping you have to create a reserve for when the market turns and you get stuck with or have to dump houses at a big loss. No one ever takes that into account. So if you can do 4 years of $150k profit each, then your going to have the recession year where you could lose like $160k, you really are making $110k each. You could make this up with a loss reserve fund.

      1. Vinh, I have a 9-5 gig and I work part-time as a Realtor. My goal is to be a Realtor full-time and part-time real estate investor. This year is crucial for me. I think I will know for sure by year end that I can move forward to my goal 🙂

  2. Completely disagree. Reselling is definitely scalable. There are so many stores and arbitrate opportunities that when you get banned from one you just move to the next. Also you need to be more careful with your buying at stores that are known not to be reseller friendly. I did over $100k in sales just Nov-December, with average ROI over 100% and have only got banned from one store in my life that made up a small portion of sales. One of our group admins did $250K just in December and has never been banned. There are many stores that ARE reseller friendly and even those that aren’t you just need to know the tricks to avoid them. And of course its even easier not to get into trouble or banned if you do retail arbitrage. I also don’t touch 99% of my items. I send them to a Prep Center that packs and ships them for me which enables me to focus on sourcing and other aspects of my biz. Using a prep center actually SAVES me money since I use one in tax free states so I don’t pay tax on my buys when I typically would. It’s not easy and I certainly wouldn’t do it to MS for FF miles/points, but plenty of ways to make a great income off of it. Also don’t disagree that PL offers a lot of opportunities as well, but certainly wouldn’t write off RA/OA. PL also has a much harder barrier of entry IMO.

    1. Good for you. I’m just surprised those prep places haven’t been address banned since so many resellers ship to them. I know there are fat margins in RA, but that’s just not my cup of tea. I want to be able to “work” from a beach; I can’t do that with RA. I’m guessing your 100% ROI and 100K in sales in Q4 were mostly sourced from RA.

      OA’s doors is slowly closing once retailers get more ban happy. I don’t know how long you’ve been doing reselling and OA, but I’ve done it long enough to know when to quit. If reselling was great, then why would my 600K friend want to move into PL? Even if his margins were 20%, that’s 120K he made last year. I love your last point – yes PL has a much harder barrier of entry and that’s what makes it great. If every soccer mom can do RA at Target, that’s just more competition. For her to do PL, it’s a greater risk, so less competition in PL, thus higher profits.

      1. I do 99% OA. Like you, I want to be able to work on the beach and don’t want to be scanning in stores. I don’t disagree that PL has many opportunities and what many resellers end goals is. My point is reselling is definitely scalable, even doing 100% OA. Many people are successful doing both.

        1. I don’t know where you sourced 100K of product with a 100% roi, post fees. That’s unheard of. I could see that happening at low volume, not at 100K volume. Must have been some kind of toy exclusive then. Either way, congrats and keep it up.

          1. I wouldn’t say its unheard of especially in Q4, but I’m happy with it. I source a huge variety of products in various categories such shoes, clothes, toys, tools, etc. so it wasn’t one great item (my best sku was under 7% of sales for the period). The root of what I learned is based on stuff I learned on your blogs and others like yours. You, TM and FM are the ones that introduced me to this opportunity so thank you for that. Love the blog and didn’t mean to come off so confrontational in my first comment.

          2. Ah no worries. I figured you were using some type of oaxray for all that. Congrats again on the numbers. Consider me jealous.

      1. I’ve been using http://www.weship-usa.com/ for the past couple of months and have been happy with them. I hear a lot of good things about https://primezeroprep.com/. Both are in New Hampshire which is a tax free state so it is possible to save money while not needing to do your own shipping. WSU is newer and smaller so less retailers will cancel orders. Though places like Target, Kohls and ThinkGeek that are strongly anti-reseller I wouldn’t risk shipping to prep center.

    2. Hey Sourcing simplifiers, i would love to know more about your group. Anyway i can reach you outside of this discussion? you can reach me at sundeepkrishna @ gmail

  3. Call me a wimp, but I believe I’d at least read the rest of the 17 Steps before trying it at home.

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